I understand that you've been experiencing some changes, that have been linked to Andropause. I'd like to start by asking when you first realised th

I understand that you've been experiencing some changes, that have been linked to Andropause. I'd like to start by asking when you first realised that something was different. Can you share your experiences with andropause?

Well, its been a bit of a journey, you know? I guess it started a couple of years back. I began feeling more tired than usual, not the typical work fatigue. It's like my energy levels just took a nosedive. At first, I thought it was just the stress from the job, you know, the constant hustle in the pharmaceutical sales game.

I see. It sounds like the fatigue was a significant factor. What else did you notice?

Fatigue was just the tip of the iceberg. I found myself having trouble sleeping, waking up in the middle of the night for no apparent reason. And let me tell you, that's not something I ever had an issue with before. I used to be a solid sleeper, no interruptions. And, well, it's a bit uncomfortable to talk about, but there were some changes in the, uh, romantic department. I wasn't as, you know, active as I used to be. It started affecting my confidence, and I thought maybe it's just stress from work or something. My my mood took a hit though I cant recall if this was before or after I started struggling with those things. I've always been a pretty level-headed guy, and you know, working in sales is quite full on, there has to be that degree of exuberance, high energy, theatrics you know, but suddenly I was getting irritable over small stuff. I'd catch myself in these moods, and it felt out of character, you know? Like, where's this frustration coming from?

You mentioned feeling more tired than usual. Could you describe what the fatigue was like for you?

Yeah, it's like this constant heavy weight on my shoulders, you know? It's not just physical tiredness; it's like my whole body is drained. Even after a night's sleep, I wake up feeling like I never really got any rest. It's affecting my productivity at work, and by midday, I find myself struggling to keep up the energy to get through the tasks. It's frustrating because I used to be on my game, always ready for the next challenge. Oh, it's night and day, doc. I used to be the guy who could pull long hours, travel for work, and still have energy left for other activities. Now, even the thought of a busy day ahead feels daunting. It's like my body's running on low fuel all the time, and I can't seem to recharge it like I used to.

I understand that discussing changes in one's sex life can be sensitive. You mentioned earlier that there have been some changes in that area. If you feel comfortable, could you share a bit more about how these changes have been affecting your intimate relationships?

Yeah, it's not the easiest thing to talk about, doc, but I get that it's part of the picture. The thing is, there's been a noticeable shift, you know? It's like the desire and performance aren't what they used to be. I never thought I'd be dealing with something like this, and it's a blow to the confidence, especially in the romantic department. Its not like I thought was some sort of player, but I used to look forward to those moments with my partner; it was a great way to let off steam from the demands of the job, passionate and all. But now, it's like that fire's not burning as bright, and it's tough to admit. It's definitely putting a strain on things. My partner has been understanding, but I can see it in their eyes, you know? That concern, that maybe it's something I'm not sharing. And I get it. Intimacy is a crucial part of any relationship, and when it's not clicking like it used to, it creates this distance, this awkwardness. It's hard to navigate. It's not just about the physical aspect; it's about that connection we used to have, the way it brought us closer. Now, it feels like I'm struggling to keep that connection alive.

I appreciate your openness in sharing this. Changes in intimacy can indeed be challenging, and it's commendable that you're willing to discuss it. How do you feel this is impacting your overall well-being and sense of self?

It's tough -I've always taken pride in being a good partner, and when you can't fulfill that aspect of the relationship, it messes with your head. I never thought I'd be at a point where I'd be questioning myself in this way. It's another layer to the whole situation that's been tough to handle. It's not just about the physical changes; it's about the emotional toll it's taking on me, on us.

Have how would you say you approach handling this, coping?

Stress management? It's taken a hit, for sure. I used to handle the pressure like a pro, but now, even small setbacks at work feel like big challenges. The fatigue makes it harder to bounce back, and it's affecting my confidence in my abilities. I'm worried it might impact my performance and standing in the company. Honestly, I've been trying to tough it out. You know how it is in the sales world, it's a competitive field, and I can't afford any slips. I've been keeping it to myself, thinking maybe it's just a phase that'll pass.

Can you explain more about what you mean by 'tough it out'I guess it's like this ingrained instinct, you know? In the sales world, it's all about being on top of your game, showing resilience, and handling the pressure without flinching, looking and feeling good is so important. So, when these changes started happening, I thought, maybe I can power through it, grit my teeth, and get back to the top of my game. It's a competitive field, and I can't afford to show any weakness. Small setbacks that I used to brush off now feel like major obstacles, and the fatigue makes it harder to recover. I worry that if I let on that I'm struggling, it might impact how people perceive my abilities, my performance, and my standing in the company. Then it becomes this double-edged sword,. On one hand, it's been keeping me going, at least on the surface. I can still put on a good face for clients and colleagues. But on the flip side, inside, it's exhausting. The constant effort to keep up appearances, coupled with the fatigue and other changes, is taking a toll on my confidence. It's like I'm juggling this facade while dealing with the real struggles beneath the surface. And the longer I tough it out, the more I wonder if it's the right approach or if I'm just delaying the inevitable.

You've been dealing with these changes, and it seems you've reached a point where you're considering andropause as a possible explanation. How did you come to understand that this might be what you're experiencing?

It took a while, I was trying to tough it out, as we talked about, but it got to a point where I had to open up about it. I finally talked to my partner about what I've been going through. Surprisingly, she was really supportive. I guess women are more in tune with things; they experience hormone changes more than men. To be honest, I didn't even know men could go through something like this until she brought it up.

Psychologist: It's commendable that you reached out to your partner for support, and I'm glad to hear she was understanding. It's true that women are often more familiar with hormonal changes due to their own experiences, and it's not uncommon for men to be less aware of conditions like andropause. How has this newfound understanding influenced your approach to dealing with these challenges?

You mentioned that you were surprised by your partner's supportive response when you opened up about what you've been going through. Can you share more about why her reaction caught you off guard?

I guess I wasn't expecting that level of understanding and support. I mean, we've always been there for each other, but this felt different. I think I had this preconceived notion that discussing these kinds of personal challenges might make things awkward or uncomfortable, or would make me feel less like a man. So, her immediate understanding and encouragement to seek help kind of took me by surprise. I wasn't sure how she would react, and her response made me realise that maybe I had underestimated her understanding of what people go through, especially when it comes to health issues.

It's understandable that discussing such personal matters can be accompanied by uncertainty about how others will respond. It's positive that your partner's reaction has been supportive, and it seems like it's opening up new avenues for addressing these challenges. How has this experience influenced your perception of seeking support and talking about your health concerns?

It's definitely changed my perspective. I used to keep things to myself, especially when it came to health matters. I guess I was afraid of burdening others or being seen as vulnerable. But now, seeing how my partner reacted, I realize the importance of sharing these things. It's not a sign of weakness; it's about seeking understanding and finding solutions together. It's a shift in mindset for me, and I think it's a step in the right direction.

It's great that you've found support from your partner. Beyond that, have you considered sharing your experiences with friends, family, or work colleagues? How do you think they might react?

You know, I haven't really thought about it much. The whole tough-it-out mentality has kept me from opening up to others. I guess I worry about how my friends and colleagues might perceive it. In the sales world, there's this expectation of always being at the top of your game, and admitting to struggles might not align with that image. Family, well, I'm not sure how they'd take it either. I've always been the reliable one, and showing vulnerability is not something they've seen much of from me.

It's understandable that the expectations in the sales world and your own established role within your family might create hesitation in sharing these challenges. It's important to consider, though, that opening up to others can provide additional layers of support and understanding. People close to you might surprise you with their empathy and willingness to help. How do you think your friends, family, or colleagues might react if you were to share your experiences with them?

Honestly, it's hard to say. I've always been the one offering support, not the one seeking it. But I guess if I look at it from another perspective, maybe it's time to show that vulnerability isn't a sign of weakness. I just don't want to burden others with my problems.

You mentioned concerns about discussing these challenges with friends, family, and colleagues, especially in the competitive sales environment. How about your employers? Have you considered talking to them about what you've been going through to seek support at work?

No, I haven't brought it up at work. The sales field is demanding, and I worry that showing any sign of vulnerability might impact how they see my performance or dedication to the job. There's this pressure to always be at the top of your game, and admitting that I'm dealing with personal challenges doesn't quite fit into that narrative, you know? It feels like uncharted territory for me. But if it could lead to some understanding and support at work, it might be worth considering. I just don't want it to impact how they see my capabilities or dedication to the job.

Considering the competitive and demanding nature of the sales world, do you have work colleagues that you feel comfortable sharing these challenges with and trust for support?

Honestly, it's a tough one. The sales world is cutthroat, and everyone's vying for those top positions. I've built professional relationships, but it's more about collaboration on deals than personal matters. I'm not sure if I have colleagues I'd trust with something like this. It feels like everyone's looking out for themselves, and admitting to personal struggles might be seen as a weakness.

Given the challenges you've highlighted with employer support, how do you personally manage the symptoms of andropause at work ?

Errm, well, I've been making some adjustments on my own. I've started prioritizing tasks to manage my energy levels better throughout the day. Taking short breaks when I can to avoid burnout has been helpful. Generally I guess, I've been trying to power through it like I always have. I haven't changed much in my approach, just pushing myself harder. I haven't thought about talking to my employer because, in the sales world, any sign of weakness can be exploited. I don't want them questioning my ability to handle the job or thinking I can't keep up. Since speaking with my partner I have been to the docs, and there is likely to be tests and forms medications or other solutions to try, but its early in the game. I have tried to start incorporating some lifestyle changes outside of work, like regular exercise and a healthier diet. It's been helping with the fatigue and mood swings.

I'd like to thank you very much for your openness and the time that you've given. Is there anything else that you would like to say?

You are welcome it was quite nice to talk about it actually. I think I would end really by just saying that it does feel like quite avoid between wanting to go to the employer, i know they have a duty of care and i know they have to look after health and well-being but I also feel that because of the industry I can't help feel that it would go against me somehow. I find that it is a shame but I guess a lot of people with some physical and mental health conditions are in the same boat- i wish it was different but right now it isn't

Could you share your experiences with andropause, and when did you first realize something was different?

Sure. So, around the age of 45, I started noticing some changes that got my attention. I work as an offshore engineer, and the job keeps me pretty active. But despite that, I noticed a few changes, in my appearance initially, like, my beard becoming more patchy, which was odd because it had always been full and thick and this gradual weight gain around the middle. I'm out there on the rigs, and I've always prided myself on staying in good shape. But it was not until I saw a picture of myself a year ago that I realised how different I looked. This extra weight, especially around the belly was annoying, I mean dont get me wrong I expected some changes as I got older, but seeing that picture, just made me feel, I dont know kind of sad, confused it got like this.

I think I started obsessing about my image and as time went on, I found myself sinking into this low, unhappy state that was just not like me at all. Not like depressed I dont think, I dont know just not me. The fatigue was a nightmare and quite persistent, that I would say was hitting me hard, and the brain fog was affecting my focus at work. All in all, well it just took a toll on my mood. I started feeling more irritable, not just at work but also at home. Little things that wouldn't bother me before suddenly became major sources of frustration. That then causes issues with, well in particular my partner, at work its not so much of a thing, I mean offshore, loads of guys, we get grumpy ! I'd come home after a stint on the rigs, and instead of looking forward to quality time with family, I found myself withdrawing. It was tough. I've always been a pretty upbeat and level-headed guy, but now, these mood swings and this constant sense of low energy were affecting my relationships, you know? Like at home, my patience was wearing thin, and I could see the impact it was having on those around me.

So, being the engineer that I am, I turned to the internet for some research.. That's when I stumbled upon male-menopause or something and andropause in my late-night web searches. Reading about the symptoms, I seemed to tick a lot of boxes. The more I then thought about it the more I realised I was grappling with emotional changes alongside the physical ones. I guess I knew but didnt really think about at all, you know, like it was there but not at the forefront. That's when I realized that andropause was more than just a collection of physical symptoms; it was taking a toll on my mental well-being as well.

Did anything happen as a result of your late-night web searches?

It was a bit of a mental maze, to be honest. The more I read about andropause, the more I felt this mix of confusion and concern. It's not like there's a clear roadmap for handling this sort of thing. I mostly just ignored it, put it down to post covid, being away offshore, shift work and thought that Id just focus on diet and exercise. But I couldnt shake the idea that some of this was what biological? You know it was hormone related and I didnt know how to manage that. I thought of the GP. But figuring out how to approach it was a whole different challenge. You know, us men, we often have this resistance to going to the docs, and the idea of discussing hormones seemed a bit foreign and, frankly, a bit silly to me at first.

It was my wife. I sat down with my her and told her about my internet searches. She really gets the importance of mental health, and we've had discussions over a glass of wine about how male mental health and body image are significant issues. It's not just a woman's thing; it's something we both acknowledged and talked about. Im not surprised, she was great, really supportive. Instead of downplaying it or dismissing it, she reinforced that a GP visit might be really useful. She understood that these issues could be real and important. She noticed some changes herself, both in my mood and how I was navigating our relationship. It added another layer of confirmation that seeking professional help was the right path. And that GP visit, awkward as it felt at first, was a good step. He did some tests and while he didnt diagnose it specifically he confirmed that this is something that can happen, while it was part of aging men like women can experience changes, hormonally.

Sounds like you had some good support there. What about other support, friends, family, work colleagues?

Yeah, you know, it's kind of interesting out there on the rigs. People think we don't talk personal stuff, but it's not as stiff as that. We're not having group therapy sessions or anything, but when you're away for weeks, you develop this quiet understanding. My partner and the folks I work with are my go-to support crew. Living and working in each other's pockets, you naturally share the load. It's like this unspoken thing where you know everyone's dealing with their stuff, and you sort of check in without really saying it. A raised eyebrow or a casual "you good?" says more than words. The offshore brotherhood, as I like to call it, has its own way of looking out for each other. It's not all touchy-feely, but there's this camaraderie. We might not spill our guts every day, but there's this silent understanding that we're all riding the same wave.

With family, it's a bit different. They're there for me, but being miles away makes those heart-to-hearts a bit tricky. We catch up on the phone, and when I'm back, we make the most of our time together. It's a different vibe, but their support is solid. I think though they, like me put it down to working on the rigs.

In terms of work colleagues, am I right in saying that the support here has been in the form of sharing, the opportunity to talk? I wonder to what extent are there any practical solutions?

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. The support with workmates is more about sharing, having the chance to talk. When I started opening up about andropause, it was surprising to find out that a few others were going through similar stuff. It's not like we're offering a playbook of solutions, but just having that space to share experiences is therapeutic in its own way. Honestly, no one really knows much about this stuff. There's this unspoken understanding, especially among us guys it's like the "keep calm and carry on" mentality. Beyond suggesting to seek medical help, practical solutions are a bit thin on the ground. It's tricky, you know? What can you do about it when you're offshore, away from the usual support systems? So, the sharing becomes a way to be more tolerant of each other's behaviors. We get it, the outbursts, the irritability it's part of the deal. We back each other up in our own way. Like, "I'll cover a shift for you, mate," or, if you're lucky, a bit of banter to lighten the mood. It's that camaraderie, the unspoken support that comes in practical forms like covering for each other or just offering a friendly ear when someone needs to vent.

In a way, by being open about it, we create this environment where we're not judging each other for the quirks that come with andropause. It's a shared understanding that helps us navigate the challenges, even if the practical solutions are a bit elusive.

How does humor at work, especially offshore, in the context of sharing and dealing with andropause, contribute to the experience?

Well, you know, humor out on the rigs, especially around something like this would take on a unique flavor. We've developed this sort of camaraderie through sharing experiences and, yeah, even cracking a few jokes. It might not always be politically correct, but it serves a purpose. You know what I mean, questions over a persons gender, or being more emotional, touchy feely, you know? Like I said I know its not politically correct but takes the weight off, lightens the mood. I think sometimes its a way for us guys to actually something without saying it.. I dont know what Im trying to say that you know joking about something like andropause would be our way of saying, "Hey, we're all in the same boat here." It creates a sense brotherhood, less isolating. We've found that sharing a laugh over shared challenges, even if it's edgy humor, helps make the whole thing more manageable.

So it helps bond you guys in a way and is a stress reliever?

Yes definitely, humor offshore is something that we all share. The jokes might be a bit over the edge, but they strengthen our connection and understanding of each other. You cant help feeling a little better after a good laugh. It can make tough day a bit brighter.

Considering the use of dark humor and jokes in your workplace to cope with andropause, do you think this atmosphere might discourage someone from discussing symptoms associated with andropause openly?

Ah, mm I dont know maybe, its just, it's kind of like our thing, you know? Banter and jokes help us get through the ups and downs offshore. But, yeah, I suppose could make someone, especially if they're new to the game, a bit hesitant to dive into more serious stuff. Us veterans of the trade, we're used to it, been sharing war stories and laughs for ages. It's like a code we understand. But for the new guys stepping onto the platform or into the industry, it might be a bit different. They might wonder if their concerns will just become the latest punchline. It's not that we don't take things seriously when it matters, but breaking through the banter for something like andropause symptoms? That could be a bit of a hurdle. I think though, that one of us would notice if a person was struggling and probably offer opportunities for them to offload in some way.

Thats great thank you. Just going back a little bit. I note that talking with employers was not mentioned in any practical advice? Is that the case?

Oh, you know how it goes. In theory, every company is all about employee well-being these days. It's the new big thing, right? But when it comes down to the nitty-gritty, it's a bit of a joke. So, I had this mate, dealing with some mental health issues. Went to the employer seeking support, and you know what they did? Gave him a couple of counseling sessions and sent him on his merry way. Now, don't get me wrong, counseling is valuable im sure, but come on ! The real kicker is, they didn't offer any short-term practical help at work. No adjustments, no understanding of how his well-being impacted his day-to-day tasks. He had to be the one to bring up changes to his working pattern, you know, something more manageable for him at that time. They said, "Sure, we'll look into it," and you can guess what happened next nothing. It's like they had a checklist, counseling done, potential workplace adjustments well, that's not a priority, is it?

It's the same old song. They talk a big game about caring for well-being, but when it comes down to the brass tacks, it's all a bit of a farce. Its in all those fancy mission statements and HR pamphlets and mental health awareness and such like. But in reality, it's more a box ticking exercise. They want to be seen as progressive and caring, but when you bring up something, it's like you're speaking a different language. They're not equipped for it, and it's clear they haven't thought much beyond the surface level.

So no, no one suggested speaking to the bosses and I wouldnt bother.

Given the challenges you've highlighted with employer support, how do you personally manage the symptoms of andropause at work and would you speak to your employer about those maybe?

Well the tiredness is a good example here. You know, when it hits, it hits hard, especially out here on the rig where being alert is more than just a good idea. The thing is, discussing specific symptoms with the bosses feels like navigating a maze, at night, with surprises along the route you know, you dont know what theyll say or do! They're more tuned into the performance scorecard than the well-being playbook, you know? If I were to mention something like fatigue, I reckon it'd be met with a nod and a casual dismissal. "Everyone's tired, mate, just grab a coffee, if you cant handle maybe off shore shift working isnt for you." That kind of jazz. Theyre not really equipped to support with things like this. It's ore about keeping the wheels turning and hitting those production targets.

So, me its, caffeine that's the classic go-to, right? Grabbing a cup of coffee or a cheeky energy drink to kickstart the system. But let me tell you, relying on that black magic has its dangers, especially when the job demands sharp focus. It's a bit like walking a tightrope; too much, and you're buzzing like a live wire, too little, and you're nodding off in the control room. Imagine this, it's the dead of night, the hum of the machinery is the only soundtrack, and you're wrestling with the fatigue monster. You start to think, "Did I double-check that valve? Did I catch that detail in the safety report?" It's a mental gymnastics routine that no one signed up for. But hey, I've tried some unconventional maneuvers to stay awake and alert. Picture this I once rigged up a mini disco ball in the break room. When fatigue starts creeping in, I flip the switch, and suddenly, it's like a party in there. Music, funky lights, the whole shebang. Anything to jolt the system, right? And then there's the talking tactic. When Im feeling like Im dosing off during a late-night shift, I break into these ridiculous accents or throw in random movie quotes during conversations for a bit of a light. It's like our version of a wake-up call. It might sound a bit absurd, but out here, where the consequences of a tired slip-up can be pretty serious, you find inventive ways to tackle the exhaustion. It's a fine line we walk, trying to stay awake and sharp without overdosing on caffeine. And trust me, there's nothing like a disco ball or a spontaneous Shakespearean soliloquy to keep you on your toes. It's a tricky balance, wanting to be open about what you're going through but also realizing the workplace priorities are a different beast. So, the disco ball and quirky wake-up calls, yup. I guess as it goes on I will have to get more creative !

Outside of your shifts, at home, how do you personally manage the condition? What's your go-to strategy when the symptoms of andropause come knocking?

Ah, the after-hours battle. Well, first off, there's this delicate dance with sleep. You'd think, "Home sweet home, time to crash," right? But no, andropause has other plans. So, I've got this whole routine blackout curtains, noise machine, the works. Trying to trick my brain into thinking it's the dead of night on the rig. Im not sure I will ever master this problem ! Usually exercise is something I would do a lot. A mix of weights and cardio, not to become a bodybuilder, mind you, but to fend off the sluggishness that andropause throws my way. It's like telling my body, "Hey, we're not ready to slow down just yet." I do have to persevere with this because quite often I just cannot be bothered but then I think what else am I going to do. I also think with the andropause thing, well it means that things likely weight gain is more likely so I do feel I need to keep on top of this. Im worried it would just pile on. Food right, theres yet another challenge ! Balanced meals, steering clear of the temptation to drown my sorrows in a sea of comfort food, thats damn hard. I'll admit, there have been nights when the call of a midnight snack was just too hard to resist. Let's just say the refrigerator and I have had some late-night rendezvous. I guess I try to keep social, as you can see I like talking and it gets worse when Im tired or bored ! I like making calls, and connecting with mates. A good yarn with a friend can be the best medicine. Though, there was this one time I may have over-shared with a mate about the intricacies of andropause symptoms. We ended up in this awkward silence, and I thought, "Note to self: keep it light on the details next time." Entertainment is another coping strategy though I think its more coping with being away, but sometimes its nice to forget about it all. Losing myself in a gripping book or movie helps distract from the daily grind. But, there was this binge-watching episode where I lost track of time, and let's just say, the next day's shift was a blur of fatigue.

Can you describe your experiences of Andropause, when did you first think something was different?

Oh, absolutely. I first started noticing changes in my late 40s. It began with these unexplained bouts of fatigue, like I'd been hit by a wave of exhaustion. I attributed it to work stress initially, but then there were these subtle shifts in my physical well-being.

I remember a specific incident when I struggled to get through my regular workout routine. It was frustrating because I'd been quite active before. That's when I thought, "Okay, maybe it's just a bad day." But those 'bad days' became more frequent, and I couldn't ignore the decline in my stamina and overall physical performance.

The mental aspect took me by surprise too. I've always been sharp and focused, but suddenly I found myself easily distracted and forgetful. It was like my mind wasn't as reliable as it used to be. I guess it was a culmination of these moments the fatigue, the physical changes, and the cognitive hiccups that made me realize something was indeed different. It's a journey of self-discovery that I hadn't anticipated, and it started with these seemingly small but significant shifts in how I felt and functioned.

Had you heard of andropause beforehand?

Honestly, before experiencing these changes myself, I hadn't really heard much about andropause. It wasn't a term that came up in everyday conversations or even in health education. Menopause, yes, but andropause wasn't on my radar.

I guess I was more aware of the aging process in a general sense, but I didn't realize there was a specific term for the hormonal changes men go through. It wasn't until I started researching my symptoms and discussing them with a healthcare professional that the concept of andropause became clearer to me. So, in a way, my awareness of andropause grew out of a necessity to understand what was happening to my body and mind.

Can you describe any notable experiences of Andropause symptoms within the workplace setting?

Absolutely. The workplace became a noticeable battleground for dealing with andropause symptoms. The fatigue, for instance, would hit me hard in the afternoon. I'd find myself struggling to maintain the same level of productivity and focus that I had in the morning. There were times during meetings when I felt this sudden wave of irritability, and it took everything in me to keep my composure. Small stressors that I would usually handle with ease suddenly felt overwhelming, and it was challenging to navigate office dynamics when my mood seemed to swing unexpectedly.

Physically, the decreased stamina impacted my ability to participate in team activities or even take the stairs without feeling winded. It became a source of frustration, not being able to keep up with the pace I was used to. Moreover, the cognitive changes played a role in how I approached tasks. Simple things like forgetting names or misplacing documents became more frequent, and that added another layer of stress, especially in a professional setting where attention to detail is crucial.

Overall, the workplace became this arena where the symptoms of andropause manifested themselves prominently, affecting not just my performance but also my overall experience in that environment. It was challenging to navigate, to say the least.

Its interesting you use the word battleground, is that how it felt?

Yeah, "battleground" might sound a bit dramatic, but it honestly felt like that at times. The workplace, which used to be a space where I felt confident and in control, suddenly became a challenge. It's like fighting against an invisible force the fatigue, mood swings, and cognitive lapses were like opponents I had to strategize against every day. Meeting deadlines and handling responsibilities became more like a tactical mission, and I had to be constantly aware of how my symptoms might influence my performance. It's a mental and emotional battlefield where you're trying to maintain a professional facade while dealing with these internal struggles. So, yeah, "battleground" might be a strong word, but it captures the sense of conflict and resilience I felt in the workplace during that time.

Can you describe any examples where you have sought some help or advice on andropause and managing symptoms, particularly when it comes to the workplace?

Definitely. Recognizing the challenges I was facing, I took the initiative to seek help. Firstly, I reached out to our company's HR department to inquire about any support programs or resources available for employees dealing with health-related issues. I also scheduled a meeting with our occupational health services to discuss my symptoms and explore possible workplace accommodations. They were helpful in providing information about wellness programs, counseling services, and even suggested adjustments to my workload to accommodate the changes I was going through. I sought advice from a mentor within the company who had gone through a similar experience. Their insights and guidance proved invaluable in navigating the professional aspects of managing andropause symptoms. It required stepping out of my comfort zone.

You sound like you were quite decisive when it came to taking action would that be accurate?

Yes, that's accurate. Recognizing the impact of andropause on both my personal well-being and professional life, I felt a strong need to take decisive action. I believe in being proactive and finding solutions to challenges rather than letting them linger. It wasn't easy to open up about personal matters in a professional setting, but I understood the importance of addressing the issue head-on to maintain a healthy work-life balance. So, I would say decisiveness played a crucial role in how I approached seeking help and managing the symptoms of andropause in the workplace.

You also said you could speak to someone who had gone through something similar? How did this come about?

The opportunity to speak with someone who had gone through a similar experience arose quite naturally as it turned out. During a casual conversation with colleagues, I discovered that one of them had faced challenges related to andropause. Intrigued by the similarity in our experiences, I approached him privately and shared my concerns. Opening up about my situation led to a supportive and informative discussion. He shared his own journey, the strategies he employed to manage symptoms, and how he navigated the workplace during that time. It was immensely reassuring to connect with someone who not only understood the nuances of andropause but also had practical insights into coping mechanisms. It provided with a sense of camaraderie and reinforced the importance of reaching out.

It sounds like you work in an environment where you feel comfortable discussing these sorts of issues, would that be accurate?

Definitely. I have worked here most of my working life and I'm fortunate to work with people I know well. The organisation does do quite a bit to encourage communication about health and well-being.

Thats great. You have mentioned going to HR about support programmes and meeting with occupational health where you introduced to wellness programs, counseling services, potential adjustments to workload. What was your overall experience of accessing these?

Accessing the support programs and resources offered through HR and occupational health revealed both positive and challenging aspects. The wellness programs, while well-intentioned, seemed somewhat generic. It felt like there was a lack of specific knowledge about andropause, and the content wasn't always tailored to the unique challenges I was facing. On the other hand, the counseling services were a more personalized and beneficial aspect of the support system. Discussing my experiences with a counselor allowed for a deeper exploration of the emotional impact of andropause, providing valuable insights and coping strategies. Regarding potential adjustments to my workload, the conversation with occupational health showcased good intentions. They expressed a willingness to accommodate my needs but lacked clarity on the specifics of how these adjustments would be implemented. This lack of clarity was not unique to my situation but seemed to be a broader issue, also observed among female colleagues navigating menopause.

Is it correct to say that you wanted the wellness programme to be more specific to andropause while the counselling services was useful and helping you manage some of the more mental health related symptoms or consequences?

Yes, spot on. Absolutely. I found the wellness program to be lacking in specific information about andropause things like the physical changes, the normalcy of those changes, and even the expected timeframes. It left me wishing for more details on the duration of symptoms and where to seek additional medical support. Maybe a broader program that combines mental and physical health aspects.

On the other hand, the counseling services proved to be highly valuable, particularly in managing some of the more mental, you know psychological aspects. The discussions with the counselor allowed for a more personalized exploration of the emotional aspects, providing insights and coping strategies that were directly relevant to the mental health challenges I was facing. So, in essence, a more specific focus within the wellness program combined with the personalized nature of counseling services would have provided a more comprehensive support system for managing andropause symptoms.

To what extent if any did you experience barriers or challenges to accessing this help?

I think once I got over the uncomfortable nature of talking about I felt I had a plan and just went with it. You know, it wasn't the easiest thing to talk about this whole andropause deal at work. There is a kind of unspoken rule, especially for guys, to keep your health stuff to yourself. So, breaking that barrier and bringing up andropause in the office was a bit of a hurdle for me, initially anyway. And then there's the wellness programs themselves the timings often clashed with work hours, making it a bit of a challenge to dive into those consistently. I guess few people even know about andropause. Even in the wellness sessions, there's this lack of info, like they don't quite get what's going on. It's not just me; I think it's a broader thing in society. Men's health, especially the aging and hormone stuff, doesn't get talked about enough. So yes, hurdles? Opening up about it, juggling work and wellness schedules, and the general lack of awareness about andropause those were the main challenges I faced.

Thank you for that. I want to move on a little and explore to what extent you sought help outside of the workplace.

Sure thing. Outside of work, I explored a few avenues to get a handle on this whole andropause situation. One of the first things I did was consult with my family doctor. They've been my go-to for general health stuff, and discussing the symptoms I was experiencing helped me get a clearer picture of what was going on. I also delved into the vast world of the internet, reading up on andropause, symptoms, and how to deal with the issue. It's a double-edged sword, though lots of info out there, but you have to sift through to find the stuff that's reliable. I knew of some local men's health group, but while I am ok discussing this with the odd mate, the idea of sitting in a circle and discussing hormones, was just not for me !

It seems you were quite focused on getting support would that be right to say? Quite decisive as mentioned earlier?

Absolutely, spot on. When I started noticing these changes, I knew I had to take action and get support. Maybe it's just how I'm wired, I am quite a fixer you know, if there is a problem, deal with it head on. I didn't want to just sit around and let things slide; I wanted to understand what was happening and figure out how to manage it.

But not the mens group?

Honestly, the idea of the men's group wasn't my cup of tea. I get that some guys find it helpful, sitting in a circle and opening up you know, spilling your guts, and that just isnt for me. I prefer dealing with things on my own or with close friends. Joining the group seemed like it would involve more talking than I was comfortable with, so I decided to skip it. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

What about friends and family?

Yeah, so when it comes to this andropause stuff, my wife's been my main confidante. She notices the changes, especially when I'm irritable or having trouble sleeping. It's like, she's right there, experiencing the tail end of those symptoms with me.

With friends and the extended family, especially the guys, it's a bit different. We've always been the stoic, keep-it-to-ourselves type. So, I've never really gone into the details with them. Work is work, home is home, and personal health matters, I tend to handle on my own or with my wife. It's just the way we've always been as a family. I'd say the impact on my extended family is more about maintaining the usual dynamics rather than any direct consequences of andropause symptoms. Our relationships have always been a bit reserved, especially among the guys. The andropause journey has mostly been a personal thing, and it hasn't drastically altered how we interact.

Sure, there might be moments when the symptoms affect my mood or energy levels, but I try to manage that within my immediate family circle. Extended family relationships, for better or worse, remain pretty consistent, based on the patterns we've always had. So, I'd say the impact is more on the status quo of our relationships rather than any major changes due to andropause.

When you say maintaining the usual dynamics, what do you mean? response should get into the additional energy it needs to maintain that normalcy, it takes more time. The response should indicate HOW this is done,

Participant: By "maintaining the usual dynamics," I mean sticking to the patterns and interactions we've always had in the extended family. There's a certain level of reserve, especially among the guys, where personal matters like health aren't extensively discussed. Now, with andropause symptoms occasionally affecting my mood or energy, it does require some extra effort to keep things running smoothly. It's like putting in more energy to ensure that family gatherings and interactions don't get disrupted by any changes in my well-being.

This is done by consciously managing my energy levels, especially during family events. It might involve planning ahead, making sure I get enough rest, and finding ways to cope with the symptoms so that I can maintain the usual dynamics without causing any unnecessary disruptions. It's a bit like behind-the-scenes work to keep everything rolling as it always has.

How does this extra work and planning impact you?

It takes its toll, yeah, without a doubt I guess. Especially considering the fatigue that comes with andropause. It impacts how I approach family interactions and self-care. Going for those walks in the hills, which used to be a regular thing for me, isn't as frequent anymore.

There's this constant balancing act between managing symptoms, preserving energy, and maintaining the usual family dynamics. It's like rearranging priorities and making conscious choices to ensure I can participate in family events without burning out. So, while it adds another layer of effort, it's also about finding ways to adapt and strike a balance in the midst of andropause challenges.

Would it be right to say you prioritise keeping normalcy over your health at times?

Yeah, I guess you could say that. There are times when I consciously prioritize maintaining the usual family dynamics over focusing solely on my health. It's not that health isn't important, but there's this understanding that family interactions have their own rhythm, and disrupting that too much might have its own set of consequences.

So, it's a bit of a balancing act sometimes choosing to keep things normal despite the impact on my health. It's not always ideal, but it's a trade-off I make to ensure that family dynamics remain steady, even if it means putting my health considerations slightly on the back burner at times.

So, with your new found knowledge gained from work and elements outside of work, can you describe any changes you have made to coping and manage andropause?

Erm, yes, let me know. So I think its about treating the symptoms of it really. The fatigue and mood swings, I've had to make adjustments in how I cope. Admittedly, the fatigue has limited my ability to engage in extensive exercise, leading to some weight gain. It's not ideal, and I recognize the importance of addressing it. But I guess I cannot address everything at once. I think I am that kind of person who just plans and fixes things. I tend to approach challenges systematically. So, while the reality is a bit of a mixed bag right now, with the fatigue hindering my exercise routine, I'm strategically working on incorporating more rest to conserve energy. Weight management is a priority, driven by my preference to avoid medication if possible, but diet remains a crucial aspect, with a focus on nutrition supporting hormonal balance and energy levels, along with hydration. At work, in the workplace, open communication about my needs, particularly when dealing with symptoms, has been essential. Discussions with occupational health about potential workload adjustments aim to navigate work challenges effectively. I think I cope by trying to keep a positive mindset though it is challenging at times, its tiring. I guess as I just accept what life throws at me sometimes, this unfortunately is part of getting old and a natural part of life. I dont know where it comes from but I am quite resilient, I think ive had to be with my familiar, ha ha. Instead of dwelling and being like oh poor me, I focus on the possibilities and what I can actively do to improve my well-being. Oh I think the irritability is another challenge for me. The counselling service suggested some form of therapy about being in the moment, some mindfulness idea and other things, but I dont know it sounds a little out therefore for a guy like me.

So just to pick up on a couple of things, is it right to say that andropause, for you is a 'problem' can be rectified with a strategic plan?

Yeah, I'd say that's a fair assessment. I view andropause as a set of challenges, or "problems," if you will, that can be fixed, I am of course, I'm realistic about it not everything in life is fixable, especially when it comes to more severe health conditions like stage 4 cancer. That's a different ballgame. But, for a lot of health conditions, including andropause, I believe understanding it and making a commitment to change can indeed make a significant difference. It's about recognizing the challenges, developing a strategic plan to navigate them, and committing to the necessary changes for improvement. So, in that sense, I do see andropause as a challenge that can be tackled systematically with the right approach.

The other point, you mention some psychological opportunities to cope with symptoms, say the irritability, involves therapies that are may not suited to a guy like you. Can you explain what you mean?

Ha ha, well yeah, I guess what I meant is that these things that sound a bit hippy or abstract for someone like me. I'm more of a practical person, so managing irritability, the idea of delving into abstract or flowery therapies feels a bit unconventional. It's not the usual approach that I'd naturally gravitate towards.

Finally, looking to the future, to what extent are you confident you can manage andropause and the symptoms to improve your work and home life?

I'm cautiously optimistic about managing andropause in the future. The proactive steps I've taken, from lifestyle adjustments to seeking support, have shown some positive effects. While there might be uncertainties about how symptoms will evolve, I'm confident that the strategies I've put in place will continue to contribute to improved well-being. The openness to explore various coping mechanisms, both physiological and psychological, gives me a sense of empowerment. The ongoing support from my family, especially my wife, and the insights gained from the men's health group contribute to a robust support system. There's a recognition that managing andropause is an ongoing journey, but with the foundation laid, I believe it's possible to navigate through the challenges and enhance both my work and home life. So, while there might be uncertainties, there's a sense of confidence in the strategies and support networks established for the road ahead.

Thank you so very much for your time and insights. Would you like to add anything further?

You're welcome, and thank you for the opportunity to share my experiences. If there's one thing I'd like to emphasize, it's the importance of open communication and seeking support. Whether it's at work or in personal life, addressing andropause is a journey that's made more manageable with understanding and a supportive network. If anyone out there is going through something similar, don't hesitate to reach out, explore different strategies, and remember, you're not alone in this.

Can you describe your experiences of Andropause, when did you first think something was different?

Ah, it's been a bit of a bumpy ride, you know? Started noticing things in my late 40s. At first, I figured I was just getting older, but it became more evident. I play football on a Sunday, veterans league ha ha, and I really like it, but lately, I find myself not bothering as much. It's like the passion just fizzled out. You know, it used to be the highlight of my week. Running around with the lads, having a laugh, kicking the ball. But now, I'm not as invested. It's not the same buzz. I thought it was just me getting tired, but it feels like something's changed. Friends became a little more distance, we used to hang out a lot after the games, grab a pint, share some banter. But lately, they've been doing their own thing. I feel a bit more distant, you know? Not as connected. It's like I'm on the fringes. Work's always been hard, you know, driving around all day. But recently, it's like everything's a bit more taxing. I get irritable more easily. Passengers, traffic, it all grinds my gears. And focusing on the road? Man, it's become a real effort. I catch myself drifting off sometimes, and that's not good behind the wheel.

Ah, the fatigue is a killer. Long hours on the road, lack of energy. It's not just physical tiredness; it's mental too. I'm struggling to keep my focus, especially towards the end of the day. It's like I'm running on empty, and that takes a toll. I forget things, like customer addresses or directions. It's frustrating, you know? I used to have a mental map of the city, but now I rely more on the GPS. It's like my mind's playing tricks on me. Life was just like a slow burn you know. Sometimes, I wonder if it's just a phase, but deep down, I know something's off. It's a journey I didn't sign up for, and I'm not sure where it's taking me.

Had you heard of andropause beforehand?

No, not really. Andropause wasn't on my radar until recently. It all started when I visited the GP because I was feeling off. Fatigue, mood swings, you know, the whole package. So, when the doctor dropped the term "andropause," I was like, "What the heck is that?" I was genuinely shocked and surprised.

Oh, man, it was confusing as hell. I mean, you hear about menopause, but andropause? It sounded like something out of a sci-fi movie. The doctor explained it's related to testosterone, and I'm thinking, "Wait, am I becoming less of a man?" It hit me with a mix of confusion and panic. I didn't know this was a thing, and suddenly, it felt like I was navigating uncharted waters.

I went into this tailspin of questioning everything. Like, am I getting old too soon? What does it mean for my life, my relationships, my work? It's this sudden realization that, hey, your body's changing, and you didn't get the memo. It took a while to wrap my head around it and accept that this is just part of life. But that initial shock and confusion were intense.

I would normally as you to describe any notable experiences of Andropause symptoms within the workplace setting, but you have described confusion, fatigue and irritability which sounds very challenging given what you do. Within your profession how easy is it to get advice and help support?

Oh, it's been a real challenge, especially on the job. I've noticed this drop in motivation, and it's affecting my interactions with passengers. I used to be more chatty and engaged, but now I find myself just going through the motions. My regulars have noticed too, and some have become a bit distant. It's tough because I love the banter, and now it feels like I'm losing that connection.

Honestly, it's not easy at all. I'm a bit of a lone wolf in this taxi game, self-employed and all. There's no HR to turn to, no workplace support. I'm out there on the road, and it's just me and the car. Getting advice or help within my profession feels like navigating a maze with no exit. I've got mates in the same line of work, but we're all in the same boat, clueless and isolated I guess.

What about social support, say from friends and family?

Well, I haven't really opened up to my football friends about what I'm going through. There's a bit of distance there, and I guess there's this unspoken understanding that we don't delve into personal stuff too much. It's all banter and football-related banter, you know? However, with my family, particularly my daughters, it's a bit different. They're quite perceptive. They noticed some changes in me, wore me down with their concern, and eventually, I ended up talking to them about what I was experiencing. They went on a bit of a mission, practically dragging me to the GP, and now they're all over everything related to andropause. They've got this proactive approach always suggesting articles, possible remedies, and even attending doctor's appointments with me. I'm not particularly tech-savvy, so the whole internet search thing was a bit overwhelming for me. There's just so much information out there, and I didn't bother diving too deep. But my daughters, they're like a research team, finding and filtering information, making sure I'm informed about what's going on. It's been a bit of a learning curve for me, and their involvement has made the journey a bit more manageable. My wife has been going through her own health challenges, and honestly, I don't want to burden her with my stuff. She's dealing with treatments and appointments, and it feels like adding my concerns might be too much. At the same time, there's this worry in the back of my mind about how my condition might be affecting her. It's a bit of a catch-22 not wanting to add more to her plate but also concerned about the indirect impact it might be having on her. It's a tough spot to be in, navigating both our health issues simultaneously.

I can certainly imagine the difficulty. I wonder, whether you could describe a little more about how the support you receive from your daughters has helped you?

Ahh theyve been great. The support from my daughters has been a game-changer for me. They recognised changes and pushed me to acknowledge the changes happening in my life, which I guess I didnt want to do. They did a lot of the leg work navigating the vast sea of information which was quite a weight off my shoulders. Beyond the practical aspects, their emotional support was like a safety net, or like a source of energy you know, they keep me going and keep me positive. Knowing that they are there for me, attending doctor's appointments, and actively participating in my healthcare decisions has significantly eased the burden. The other thing they was help me figure out to combat some of the more challenging symptoms like the tiredness and the impact that it has on my job, being on the road so much. One of my daughters delved into how diet and hydration can help, she became like a nutrition guru, suggesting foods that provide sustained energy and help combat the energy dips I often experience. It's amazing how a few tweaks in what I eat and staying well-hydrated can make a noticeable difference in my energy levels throughout the day. She suggested taking short breaks during my pick ups, just a few minutes to step out of the taxi, get a breath of fresh air, and maybe stretch a bit. Those brief pauses not only give me a physical boost but also provide a mental break, helping me stay more alert and focused during the rest of my shift. I guess seeing some of the benefits of their help has helped re recognise more the andropause but that it is manageable.

Would I be right in saying that you feel more in control of the condition now as a result?

Oh definitely, but I guess its because they came up with ideas that were manageable and I saw the benefits quite quickly. It has spurred some motivation to explore other avenues for managing various aspects of the condition.

Thats great to hear. Without the aid of your daughters do you think you would have an idea about how you would cope with the condition?

If I didn't have the support of my daughters, I imagine I might have defaulted to age-old habits of toughing it out and pushing through without fully understanding what I was going through. I guess I would have just avoided the whole thing and put it down to old age! The initial information from the GP, which focused on medical explanations and suggested medications, including anti-depressants, left me feeling conflicted. Probably increase my caffeine intake ha ha. I mean I drank a lot of coffee and tried energy drinks for a while. I thought it could combat the fatigue and keep my energy levels up, even if only temporarily. However, it turned out to be a short-term fix, and the crashes afterward left me feeling even more drained. Sleep disturbances were a significant issue, too. I tried over-the-counter sleep aids like night nurse. While they did help me sleep, I often woke up feeling groggy and not well-rested. It felt like I was just trading one problem for another. There were times when I found myself being irritable, and instead of acknowledging it, I would either laugh it off or blame it on external things like work stress or difficult customers. It was almost like a defense mechanism, deflecting attention away from the personal challenges I was dealing with.

You know I think my relationship with my wife would have suffered. The fatigue, mood swings, and the overall changes in my well-being were starting affect our dynamic. I didnt initially want to share because I didnt want her to worry about how my condition which might make her challenges worse. The involvement of my daughters became pivotal in addressing this aspect as well. They helped bridge the gap and air my condition to explain to my wife that there is a reason for changes I was experiencing. Now, its easier to have open and honest conversations about it, we have a laugh about how we are growing old disgracefully ha ha.

That sounds really positive. Humour can be quite therapeutic dont you think?

Absolutely ha ha, having a laugh with my wife describes us nicely anyway, we are always like that. IN this case though, it helped us navigate through the challenges of and her health issues. It's like finding a source of lightness amidst the seriousness of it all. I think humour for us is like this magical quality of diffusing tension and putting things into perspective. Instead of dwelling solely on the difficulties, we've found that sharing a laugh well it's not about ignoring the realities dont get me wrong but its more about embracing them with a touch of humor. Its all less overwhelming.

I would like to go back to the point you said earlier about it being an unspoken understanding that at your Sunday football we dont go into personal things. Is that your experience?

Ah, with the footie mates, I think its a thing, well, we don't really dive into personal stuff, you know? Well some do I guess but it's all banter and football talk, that's the unwritten rule. I have this gut feeling that if I start talking about andropause or stuff like that, I might cop some good-natured ribbing or, worse, be seen as less of a bloke. Im all for having a laugh but Im not sure thats the place to discuss things. I dont know really. I guess if Im being on honest, Im worried they will see me as less of a man if I open up. I dont know I just think sticking to something familiar football, banter, you know.

Finally, looking to the future, to what extent are you confident you can manage andropause and the symptoms to improve your work and home lifeWell its not as daunting as it was once was. Before I went to the GP it was like a black cloud following me around and a constant weight on my shoulders with everything else, like the wifes health, the uncertainty around work and income. But looking ahead, I feel confident in managing it all. I think I need to stick to the small lifestyle changes otherwise I fear the cloud will return. I dont think it will always be sunshine and roses, but generally I think I manage those changes. I think id like to know more about the condition better. I think now things are out in the open things will be easier. Its like having a label on something that was just unknown you know, I thought I was just changing, you know me the real me, my personality etc it was all a bit weird. I think with the help of my daughters things will stay positive. They wont let it go any other way !Id like to thank you so much for sharing your experiences. Is there anything else that you would like to add?

Thank you. One thing I'd like to emphasise is the importance of seeking support and staying open to learning throughout this journey. If anyone else is going through a similar experience, I would encourage them to share their concerns, seek information, and not hesitate to explore different coping mechanisms. Ive found that the smallest changes or a supportive conversation can make a significant difference.