[Speaker 1] (0:05 - 0:08)

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[Speaker 1] (0:05 - 0:08)

Hey, good afternoon Rickie, how are you today?

[Speaker 2] (0:08 - 0:09)

I'm good, how are you?

[Speaker 1] (0:09 1:45)

I'm good, yeah. So let me first introduce myself. I am your counsellor today.

My name is Joy and you can just call my name and I'm a counsellor from ACAP. Yeah, so really thank you for coming today. It's very nice to meet you here.

I know it can be very exciting and it is unknown to start the counselling journey with a new therapist, but it is my great pleasure to have the chance to work with you here. And in this session, as this is our first session, it will be a little bit different from the regular session. In later times, the regular session will always run within one hour and this session will, the first session will usually just last for 20 minutes.

And later I will ask you some questions about your expectation towards the counselling outcome and to build our relationship. But if you feel there's something that you don't want to disclose to me, that is totally fine. Yeah, and then, so do you have, so now I'm wondering, do you have any experience doing counselling or any kind of psychotherapy?

[Speaker 2] (1:45 - 1:46)

No.

[Speaker 1] (1:46 - 2:44)

Okay, yeah, okay. Yeah, so it's your first time here.

I can explain that a little bit to you, a little bit more to you. The, how many sessions, the amount of sessions you want to run, later we can negotiate. It depends on the goal you would like to achieve in the future.

But usually under the regular session, for example, like once a week, and we could always witness some changes and kind of empowerment, the growth stage of our client in the future. And there are some agreements, also about the confidentiality rule. Before we can start, I ask those kinds of questions.

Do you have any ideas about what the confidentiality is?

[Speaker 1] (2:46 - 5:18)

Okay, yeah. So the confidentiality is that now we're in our office, and this is a safe environment that you can disclose or tell me any things you would like to be.

And you might see me take some notes. The notes is just for me to track a bit of progress, because we cover a lot of content. I just want to make sure I really understand what you told me.

And I am happy to share with you my observation. And I will just tell you what is my thinking and you can correct me at any time. But as our first session, as I previously mentioned, I'm the student counsellor.

So the first session is with my course assessment. I know you are one trick client, and I really appreciate that. But then now this session is being recorded.

All the transcripts and the recorded video will be stored securely, and they will only be used for the assessment purpose. And it will be raised after I complete the degree. And as I hand out to you the consent form, you might can find some of this information that I mentioned in details.

Now you can read through it. And if you are good with those requirements, you can sign later. And there is one more thing that I have to make sure you understand.

It's about the situation that I need to break the confidentiality rules. It's just for the requirement. If anything you mention in your content that involves child protection issues, crime, or you are showing signs to harm yourself or causing harm to others, I need to break the confidentiality rule and report to my supervisor.

But before I doing all those process, I will definitely let you know. Are you okay with those terms?

[Speaker 2] (5:18 - 5:19)

Okay.

[Speaker 1] (5:19 - 5:35)

All right. Then you can have the pen and sign it. And we can finalize these things later.

[Speaker 2] (5:35 - 5:37)

Yeah. Thank you so much.

[Speaker 1] (5:37 - 5:45)

I will later give you the copy of the consent form.

Yeah. Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (5:47 - 6:02)

I really covered a lot of the agreements for the referee. And so can you tell me a little bit more like just what brings you here?

[Speaker 2] (6:03 - 7:43)

I'm just feeling lacking of motivation these days. Once I get home, I want to do nothing. And I just wanna lay in my bed.

Even though I got many assessments waiting for me to finish and the due date is coming soon. However, I still don't wanna do it. Yeah.

I'm feeling it's not myself anymore because I'm a full-time student. And however, I have a part-time job to support my life because I'm living independently right now. And a bit stressful during the day.

And I also have a sleeping problems because I sleep around three or four in the morning. But I wake up will be around seven or eight. I have no enough sleep during the day.

And I feel stressed. I have not enough energy. And I don't know how to balance my life and my uni life and also my part-time job.

Yeah. And I think this is not right right now. I need myself to back on track.

[Speaker 1] (7:44 - 8:50)

Okay. Yeah. So you really covered a lot of content.

So I want to make sure if I really understand. So basically you mentioned about your two biggest concerns at this moment. First is that you feel your lack of motivation.

You feel stressful and tired. So kind of exhausted after you're doing your full-time study load and also the workload. And yeah.

And also you have concerns about the sleeping issues. And it's like you mentioned you just sleep for several five, three, five hours at night. And it might cause some other concerns for you.

Yeah. And I guess that is also your expectation to tackle with these two issues at this moment, right?

[Speaker 2] (8:51 - 8:51)

Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (8:51 - 9:32)

Okay. All right. So I would like to ask you some more questions about your motivation.

Can you tell me when did it start? Half years ago. Half years ago?

Is that half years ago that you're at that time you really have the full-time study load and you were doing your part-time job?

[Speaker 1]Yeah.

[Speaker 2]Okay.

Yeah. Because you did mention that you are supporting yourself in financial way, right? Do you have concerns about the financial issues?

[Speaker 2] (9:32 - 9:47)

Yeah. I don't want to go to work right now. But in fact, I have to because I need to pay my bills, pay my rent.

Yeah. But I just want to do nothing.

[Speaker 1] (9:48 - 10:24)

Yeah. Okay. I can see that.

And if I get in your experience and your feelings, like you are really the one of the most brave young adults I have ever seen. You are supporting yourself, trying to fulfill all the requirements from your work, from your study and support yourself financially. It seems, do you feel like all those responsibilities are unavoidable that you need to get it done as soon as possible?

Yes.

[Speaker 2] (10:24 - 10:27)

Because I want to make everything perfect.

[Speaker 1] (10:28 - 11:29)

Yeah. Yeah. I can understand that young people who are supporting themselves in such a way, they set the goal high for themselves and they want to be perfecting them.

And yeah, so is that right? And I guess the sleeping issue might relate to those lack of motivation, right? Because you feel tired and then you have problems falling asleep.

Okay. I see. Can you describe what a day is like for you?

Since you have a lot of things on your plate and you are burdened with all kinds of responsibilities. So I would like to know a little bit more.

[Speaker 2] (11:31 - 12:12)

I will wake up around seven or eight and I'll be in uni around nine and I will finish my uni sometimes around two, but sometimes it's around six. And if I finish my uni around six, once I get home, I have to do my assessment until one or two in the morning. And however, I will play around one or two hours with my phone because I want to find something fun, a bit relaxing.

[Speaker 1] (12:14 - 14:03)

That's really such a long day. And I can relate that if I have such a long day, I will feel definitely exhausted, don't want to do anything when I'm back home. And so you said you are fully occupied with your schoolwork or the workload in the days.

Do you have any support from your peers or anything to make yourself get relief from those workloads in the day? No, not really. That must be hard for you.

And that's why you said that's only when you finished your own to-do list and it's already like one to two a.m. and then you can have some time playing phones. Do you feel that is the way to try to give yourself a break? Yeah, one of the ways.

Okay, in our counseling language, sometimes we can categorize that kind of self-care or maybe this is not the most appropriate way because it might be related to the sleeping issues. It seems that you don't have enough sleep time at night. Does it cause any other kind of concerns for you?

Do you have like health concerns or did it affect your academic or work performance?

[Speaker 2] (14:03 - 14:14)

I feel not enough energy. I feel really sleepy during the day and I don't always have a good mood.

[Speaker 1] (14:15 - 19:32)

Okay, yeah. So when you lack of sleep and in low mood, then do you feel that you're kind of losing yourself and lack of motivation at that time? Yeah.

Okay, yeah. At this point, I can say these two issues are highly related to each other. So I guess that's a lot of things to explore a little bit more but I don't want to go into too deep in our first session because I can understand that it can be overwhelming for clients like you.

It's your first time into counseling session. So I can summarize and I can describe my plan for our future counseling sessions and you can use this time to take a deep breath and just to put yourself away a little bit from these stressful counseling sessions. So I guess in our next session or if you are happy to work with me in the future, I mean and I will maybe ask you to focus more about how these two motivations and how did you get your motivation from your school or from your work and if there are things we can find to tackle this issue.

For example, if we could find any other self-care strategy, I believe you already have some strategy that work for you within yourself but it might take some longer time to discover what is really effective and a less stressful way to keep yourself good. Now we can understand that your expectation is to put yourself back on track. Yeah and that is a achievable goal but we also need to make sure that we get the right idea that you are dealing with.

I can tell you I am quite confident on what I have heard about the focus of your counselors and to work with you to face those challenges in the later stage and is there anything if I am saying not very appropriate and if there's anything you want to add? No. Okay, yeah, okay.

Oh yeah, so yeah this mood and those mood situation issues that can be quite difficult and yeah so I just don't want you to be too stressful about the counseling sessions and in the future if you feel comfortable that we could be a good fit, we can go ahead and schedule our next session and it's also okay if you want to think about it and you can just it's fine too. You can always book the appointment whenever you want. And so is there any other question you want to ask or is there any other point you want to mention?

No, not really. Okay, yeah, because you have already covered a lot of content to me and I so based on my notes it's just your largest concern and then I will think about a little bit deeper into those issues and basically on this stage, if you would like some materials about some specific aspects I can provide you with and yeah so I'm quite looking forward to the future if we could help you reach your counseling goals and building the trust trustworthy relationship with you. Yeah and yeah thank you so much for your time. I am sorry I have to stop there.

We are almost out of time. Thank you. Okay, thank you.